"It truly is surreal to be speaking about this," Pates told ABC11 on Friday night.
It's been three weeks since we last spoke to Pates on the porch of her home where she proudly flies the Ukrainian flag of her homeland. Her thoughts Friday night, with her mother, father, and so many family members and friends back in Ukraine -- who three weeks ago were surprisingly not as concerned about a Russian invasion.
"I think they are more concerned now," Pates said. "I think they see some of these signs that we have been seeing here."
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At the White House, Biden was asked whether he had any indication of whether Russian President Vladimir Putin has made a decision on whether to invade
"As of this moment, I'm convinced he's made the decision," Biden said.
Pates hopes that isn't the case.
"I hope he doesn't. I pray he doesn't," Pates said. "Today, I was talking to a friend who said, 'Yeah, we know exactly where the bomb shelter is. If need be, we go there.'"
Pates is not just hoping and praying. She's also taking action. She and her group of Ukrainians in the Carolinas have been constantly raising money to send relief supplies back to Ukraine. And rallying in downtown Raleigh to raise awareness about why Ukraine should matter to Americans.
It's about liberty, they said -- likening Ukraine's struggle to keep its democracy to the American war for independence.
Back in Wake Forest, Pates, who is a stay-at-home mom and a daughter of Ukraine, wishes she could do even more.
"As far as my family, I have urged them to come out of Ukraine. At this point, they're choosing to stay," she said. "My father has said several times, I have my hunting rifle if need to go and fight."