Before Monday night's school board meeting at A.L. Stanback Middle School even got underway both sides of the debate gathered outside. Critics donned T-shirts that read, "Ban It Now!" while supporters carried these flags of the Old South.
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"When I drove onto the grounds, I swear it felt like the 1950s," said Robin McEllison during the public comment period. "Police everywhere, Confederate flags flying proudly, being held by white men. I had to ask myself 'where are the dogs and the water hoses?' "
Orange County sheriff's deputies were on every corner of the meeting as the board listened to the growing public outcry over whether Confederate flags should be banned from Orange County school properties.
Student after student, black and white, pleaded for a ban on "the bars" from campus. Parents pointed to a growing numbers of Confederate battle flags on cars, bags and clothing in schools they say harass and intimidate black students.
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Some of the most spirited debate happened outside the auditorium between a black woman and a white man who was bearing a North Carolina state flag with the Confederate bars.
"This is not brutality. This is about taking me away from your union," he said. "This is not about killing you and killing you. This is about x'ing me out of your union."
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"It's intimidating and it insinuates that you hate black people," she countered. "I don't care if you carry the flag, it doesn't bother me in the least. You have a right to believe what you want to believe in. What you don't have a right to do is intimidate and make other people fearful of it."
Back inside the meeting, James Ward, the great-grandson of a Confederate soldier, stood to defend the flag - maintaining it stands for his heritage -not hate.
"Today for almost southerners, the flag represents the honor and bravery of our ancestors. Nothing more and nothing less," Ward said.
As the meeting came to a close, the school board took no action. But the spirited debate is also playing out on social media between pro-flag groups and anti-flag groups. Some of those representatives have agreed to sit down and discuss the issues over lunch. Perhaps, it's a chance to build some understanding.